Talk:Indo-Iranians

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Article needs major updating

Most researchers cannot readily accept the Central Asian theory for the origin of Indo-Iranians today. In fact, Max Plank Institute, David Reich, and others have converged on an origin of "South Caucauses" (including NW Iran, Armenia, and Eastern Turkey) for the Indo-European language. This article is written with complete neglect of modern/ancient DNA studies, which over the past 10 years, has not only come to question the Steppe/Central Asian hypothesis - but suggest that the truth is diametrically opposite. Without question this article needs references to modern genetics, as well as the many available archeological perspectives, that provide evidence contrasting to the moderators arbitrary narrative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:882:101:1A0:91E:990:E461:F3C9 (talk) 12:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please dont revert Sourced Content to Unsourced Personal Opinions.

@wikilinuz The sources used here are also the same sources used in main protected pages of kalash people, nuristani people, as well as dharmic religions. and even if you think that they are unreliable(as per you) why would you revert the edit back to an unsourced sentence with a view that even nuristanis and kalash dont believe . i have provided multiple sources and links in edit summary. you have northing except your fantasy and wish to pov push. please provide reliable sources for your exceptional claims. 2409:40E3:103B:A7AA:9DA7:1C54:6ED:DF3B (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i have added more academic sources just to counter an unsourced opinion. unbelievable! 2409:40E3:103B:A7AA:9DA7:1C54:6ED:DF3B (talk) 03:15, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corded Ware - Shintashta

Apart from your lack of manners, you're wrong when you assert diff

Origin of origin hypothesis does not belong in ethnicity pages.The fact that you won't do hypothetical origin of origins in other pages like Celtic people,Baltic people,slavic people and Germanic people etc tells everything.

I don't understand what exactly causes your misperception, but have a look at the follwong:

  • Celtic people
    : "The Celtic languages are a branch of the Indo-European languages [...] The mainstream view during most of the twentieth century is that the Celts and the proto-Celtic language arose out of the Urnfield culture of central Europe around 1000 BC [...]"
  • Baltic people
    : "The Balts are descended from a group of Indo-European tribes who settled the area between the lower Vistula and southeast shore of the Baltic Sea and upper Daugava and Dnieper rivers]]
  • Slavic people: "According to eastern homeland theory, prior to becoming known to the Roman world, Slavic-speaking tribes were part of the many multi-ethnic confederacies of Eurasia – such as the Sarmatian, Hun and Gothic empires."
  • Germanic people
    : "The Germanic-speaking peoples speak an Indo-European language. The leading theory for the origin of Germanic languages, suggested by archaeological, linguistic and genetic evidence, postulates a diffusion of Indo-European languages from the Pontic–Caspian steppe towards Northern Europe during the third millennium BCE, via linguistic contacts and migrations from the Corded Ware culture towards modern-day Denmark, resulting in cultural mixing with the earlier Funnelbeaker culture. The subsequent culture of the Nordic Bronze Age (c. 2000/1750-c. 500 BCE) shows definite cultural and population continuities with later Germanic peoples, and is often supposed to have been the culture in which the Germanic Parent Language, the predecessor of the Proto-Germanic language, developed. However, it is unclear whether these earlier peoples possessed any ethnic continuity with the later Germanic peoples."

But all of this is common knowledge of course. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2024

Please remove the following from the text box in the top right of the page: "The exact relation between the Shintashta-culture and the Corded Ware culture remains unclear; while they are linguistically and culturally related, the (genetic) relation is still to be solved". The text box is fine as it is without that addition. The cited sources in the text box clearly support that the Proto-Indo-Iranian Sintashta was the result of a migration of peoples from the Corded Ware cultural horizon. IndoIranianEnthusiast (talk) 08:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moved into a note. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[note 1] is completely unnecessary as the first citation in the same text box supports the genetic connection between the Corded Ware culture and Sintashta culture according to Allentoft et al. 2015. Sintashta formed as a result of a migration of peoples from the Corded Ware cultural horizon IndoIranianEnthusiast (talk) 01:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2024

Please remove [note 1] from the text box in the top right corner. Caption [1] in the same text box supports the idea of the genetic connection between the Sintashta culture and Corded Ware culture according to Allentoft et al. 2015. IndoIranianEnthusiast (talk) 01:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done * Pppery * it has begun... 22:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]