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2024 dissolution of the National Assembly
- 2024 dissolution of the National Assembly (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It could be merged into the article of 2024 French legislative election. Cmsth11126a02 (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The title "2024 dissolution of the National Assembly" does not even work. Maybe "2024 dissolution of the French national assembly" or if this is the first, then "Dissolution of the French national assembly". Redirecting this title to the target does not seem right, even though this is not a RM. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- Keep: This definitely has enough coverage right now. I can also expect sustained coverage, as this is the first time this has happened in France since 1997. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 12:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete/redirect The dissolution is just the call for the snap election, absolutely no reason whatsoever to have a separate article when it can be covered in the election's background. Sustained coverage will obviously be about the election, not the dissolution as an independent, unrelated topic. Do not make one-sentence pages like this either. Reywas92Talk 13:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to 2024 French legislative election. The topic is notable (and may well be discussed for years as either a successful gamble or an unsuccessful one), but it is probably best discussed in the article on the election itself. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into 2024 French legislative election. Moondragon21 (talk 17:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Speedy) Redirect to Walsh90210 (talk) 20:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
Anthony Masake
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An article that doesn't meet
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2025 Santa Rosa local elections
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Endorsed PROD objected to. Article fails to meet
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- Draftify, or delete and then unblank the identical redirected draft. It's notable enough for an article, and there are some good examples of how to write and reference this in Category:2022 Philippine local elections, but a search for some decent references to add here turned up very little. WP:TOOSOON, per nomination. In six months or so, it should be possible to develop the draft into a good article. Wikishovel (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete we don't typically have articles on city-level elections, which this appears to be. SportingFlyer T·C 17:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. In this case, Category:Elections in Santa Rosa, Laguna says we've been covering this one since 2007. — Maile (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This election doesn't happen for 11 months. How do they know the exact candidates this far ahead of time? The 2022 Santa Rosa local elections was not created until after the final election results. — Maile (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Non-violent abortion protests
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Seems to be a
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- Redirect to WP:V violation. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete the vast majority of anti-abortion protests are already non-violent in nature. The anti-abortion movements page is therefore mostly covering the topic of non-violent abortion protests already. A page for 'anti-abortion terrorism', by contrast, would be justified for creation if it doesn't exist already, as it is markedly different from most anti-abortion movements and it has a fair amount of media attention. Reesorville (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Swatting of American politicians (2023–2024)
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Propose article be deleted or at least moved to draft. At present this article seems to be little more than a list of news articles with no wider encyclopaedic merit (
Given the contentious topic nature of the subject matter feel it's best that the article be removed from at least main space until such a time it's improved or demonstrates merit for inclusion. Rambling Rambler (talk) 14:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep as discussed on the article talk page, multiple reliable sources referred to the incidents in relationship with one another and noted that some politicians reacted with the proposed legislation to enact harsher sentences for swatting. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with the above argument. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
2024 South African provincial elections
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No reason for this article to exist. User was
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- Delete per nom. This should really just be on the main article. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, as the primary article is already very large, and it should remain mostly focused on the national parliamentary election. I propose keeping this article, and removing all the repeating content from the primary one.
- MapperGuy87 (talk) 20:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep — The original article is very long and a page for subdivisional elections is common for systems like this. This page could be more in-depth but it makes far more sense to put a shorter summary (probably in a table form) on the "general election" page and keep the in-depth stuff here. Watercheetah99 (talk) 01:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think you've assessed the situation correctly. There are already in-depth (or what can become in-depth) pages for each individual provincial election. This intermediate page serves no purpose. The summary that it currently contains should be on the main page, and in-depth coverage should be on the individual pages. Greenman (talk) 13:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Förbundet Arbetarfront
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Doesn't meet
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Second inauguration of Nayib Bukele
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The maintenance tag claiming sources exist. However, most of the sources are not about the inauguration but the current affairs of nation that is covered in 2024_Salvadoran_general_election#Presidency_of_Nayib_Bukele and Nayib_Bukele#Presidency, i.e. [1]. There is nothing much at least in the English sources about the preparation of the event, what transpired during the event, and any post event celebrations, with exception of a bombing plot, and a protest in Chicago, both of which can be easily tucked into 2024_Salvadoran_general_election#Aftermath. – robertsky (talk) 12:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy redirect/merge to Nayib_Bukele#Presidency. Don't make articles just for the sake of making articles. Inaugurations do not automatically need a standalone page. Reywas92Talk 17:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is an acceptable outcome in lieu of an outright deletion. – robertsky (talk) 04:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I haven't even delved into the Spanish sources but there is lots of WP:SIGCOV in English alone, including of the event itself (Deutsche Presse-Agentur, AP, Al Jazeera), guests (MercoPress, Politico, Deseret News, Xinhua), international reactions (AP), plus the bomb plot (AP, Reuters) mentioned by the nominator. I'm sure there's even more in Spanish. Now that the event has happened, there's plenty of coverage to support a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- On the sources you have raised here:
- Deutsche Presse-Agentur, AP, Al Jazeera these are some of what I referred to when I wrote
most of the sources are not about the inauguration but the current affairs of nation
. If it is about the event itself, I would expect significant coverage about the event itself and not a majority of the content of each source about the state of affairs in the country, his management style, and the challenges ahead for him or the country. - Guest list is the least of consideration for notability of the event. Notability is not inherited, nor this page should be a guest list as well, which some had tried to turn this page into (see ) is of anything significant about the event except that 'X had attended".
- (AP) that is an reaction to the president's management in his term (in my opinion, might be worthy of a split from his main article if extended further).
- bomb plot. further details than what has been provided currently is required. otherwise by itself, it is a news report.
- Deutsche Presse-Agentur, AP, Al Jazeera these are some of what I referred to when I wrote
- – robertsky (talk) 00:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Like any good news source, the coverage will situate the event in its context. In fact, under WP:NEVENTS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- There is no need for a separate SNG. The entire WP:NEVENTShas to be taken into consideration, not just the coverage of the event. Coverage is a given, after all it is a planned event directly after the election:
- Points to consider:
- Is there a lasting effect from the inauguration as an event? None so far.
- Is there a significant impact of the inauguration as an event? None so far.
- What's the depth of the coverage of the event? Surface level. What was the planning? What happened during the inauguration? Who/What agencies were involved in the planned? Why was there a change in the venue? What was said during the inauguration. As argued before, the analysis is already written for in the general elections page, and the inauguration is the result of the general election. There is no need for a separate article as such.
- What's the duration of the coverage? Immediate after the event, no further news coverage that I can find in the 7 days since the inauguration.
- What's the diversity of sources? Diverse but same set of talking points.
- And with respect to inauguration as a planned event. Is the coverage a routine coverage? Yes. One would expect major news outlets to cover a planned national level event as part of their routine news cycle.
- As for the other inauguration pages, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. But if I may, these pages are likely going to be evaluated in the same manner for AfD. – robertsky (talk) 04:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- There is no need for a separate SNG. The entire
- Like any good news source, the coverage will situate the event in its context. In fact, under
- On the sources you have raised here:
- Comment: How much has the article really changed since its previous iteration? I still do think this was recreated by a certain LTA block evading, though I can't say for certain. jellyfish ✉ 04:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- The infobox remained the same; all sections you see now were there as well, unfilled; the international guests section was unfilled (naturally, since it was before the event).
- This is the lead in the last deleted revision for evaluation:
- The 2024 Salvadoran presidential election held on 4 February 2024. – robertsky (talk) 04:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
2017 Indian National Congress leadership election
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Stub article with an unopposed election. Not like the 2022 one which was still meaningful. This is why no other cong election pages exist Pharaoh496 (talk) 17:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - The only source is a slight mention, fails Wikipedia:GNG TheNuggeteer (talk) 07:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG. One source has no indepth coverage. RangersRus (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete. It was not a notable event as it was mere a selection of the leader, no election took place. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Elnur Aslanov
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- Keep - The article has many sources, enough for Wikipedia:GNG, even searching for him unloads possible sources.
- Keep - The article has many sources, enough for
- TheNuggeteer (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Democratic Renewal Initiative – New Democracy Student Movement
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Merge to
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- Author note:
- I will try to find some time to expand the article over the following days. For the time being, I would just like to mention that there has been a seperate article about it in the Greek wikipedia for years: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%89%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%A0%CF%81%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_-_%CE%9D%CE%AD%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%A6%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%9A%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7 .
- As a new wikipedia member, I am not very familiar with criteria and processes. However, since there is a seperate page for it in the Greek wikipedia (it has not been merged with the New Democracy party greek page), I think that there should also be a seperate equivalent page in the English wikipedia. In my opinion, expanding the article is the way to go, not merging it.
- (So I would vote for KEEP, while expanding it at the same time.)
- ArchidamusIII (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @WP:DRAFTIFY which says I cannot. I do not feel that drafification is appropriate, or would have suggested it. The Greek language Wikipedia has different standards. The English language version has the most stringent. Existence of an article in one is no guarantee that is suitable for the other or another, not is any precedent set between language versions. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Comment
- Thanks for the information!
- I just added 15 cases-events that attracted media attention (in table form). By media I mean media that are reputable in Greece. In all honesty, I think that Democratic Renewal Initiative – New Democracy Student Movement should definitely meet the notability criteria. A quick google search with δαπ νδφκ as keywords (its Greek abbreviation) yields numerous results.
- I will try to expand the article more over the following days. There is a lot of material available, so it is hard for me to cover everything. My original goal was to establish a short article and then let others slowly add details.
- ArchidamusIII (talk) 00:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge - per nominator.
- Comment @
- TheNuggeteer (talk) 08:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Pakistan Falah Party
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I don't think this party has ever won any provincial or federal-level elections, nor has it received sig/in-depth coverage in RS, thus it fails to meet the WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Its not the required to win an election to get listed on wikipedia, secondly as for the WP:GNG is concerned, this party is got some coverage from reliable independant sources. e.g:
- https://www.urdupoint.com/politics/party/pakistan-falah-party-84.html
- https://www.dawn.com/news/676942/another-political-party-is-born
- https://pakvoter.org/political_parties/pakistan-falah-party/ Subhanyusha (talk) 14:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Subhanyusha, Unreliable sources except Dawn, and no sig/in-depth coverage in Dawn news story. — Saqib (talk) 19:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- This party meets most of the criteria to be on Wikipedia Namat ullah samore (talk) 03:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Independent Student Movements of Greece
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I have notability and original research concerns with this article.
I am unable to identify where the collective subject of the page is discussed sufficiently to meet the GNG. This part makes up the introduction of the page. In this section, the article cites to a primary research paper and a master's thesis and then a bunch of primary sources of student organization websites or interviews with organization members about upcoming elections.
Then the article moves to a list of student organizations by section. I doubt this would pass as a
The final section is a timeline specific to the "Youth Communist Liberation" organization, not the subject of the page itself.
I want to be clear here, I'm not making an
I was in the process of maintenance tagging the article, but combined with the NPOV concerns and the above, I don't presently believe this article is siutable for mainspace. This page has a history of being draftified. I'm not opposed to a draftify ATD. But an approved article should ensure that the contents of the article represent the subject of the article, and that it meets our
]- Author’s explanations:
- Addressing misunderstandings regarding sources:
- -Sources 1-2 are indeed research.
- - Source 3 is the only available database (at least as far as I am aware of) that covers all years starting from 2004.
- - Sources 4-6 are not student websites, these are legitimate (and reasonably popular) Greek news sites! (See “notability part” for more details).
- - Sources 8-9 shows that two very popular outlets (See “notability part”) were discussing about the video that the movement posted. Source 7 is the video itself, so that the reader can access it.
- - Source 10 proves that the YouTube account that is mentioned in source 11 is indeed the official account of the New Democracy student wing, and source 11 proves that its most popular video has 52,000 views at the moment. (One has to click on “popular” to see it.)
- - Source 12 shows the election results for that specific department, and it is visible that the movement was labelled as “other right wing”.
- - Source 13 shows that the other independent party got media attention for getting the 1st place in their department elections. It is a valid news website, not a student website.
- - Sources 14 and 15 prove that no elections took place in 2020 and 2021.
- I see a “failed verification” near source 6. That should not be the case; if someone clicks on the screenshots of that website, he/she should be able to see their agenda. It says “10+1 ΘΕΣΕΙΣ ΜΑΣ”; there are a couple of screenshots there that mention everything I have included.
- The timeline is not about the Youth Communist Liberation! It only uses their election database because it is the only available source! The timeline is about the independent movements, like the rest of the article.
- Beginner question: Could/Should I add Facebook photos as primary sources about the movements? That should clear any doubts.
- Regarding notability:
- - There is 1 article from Luben.tv (~1,500,000 monthly users) and 1 article from Neopolis.gr (~760,000 monthly users) about the first movement. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luben.tv and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopolis.gr for membership evidence.]
- - There was 1 article from neolaia.gr and 1 from e-reportaz.gr about the second movement. These are legitimate news sites in Greece. I do not know the exact number of views they have, but other Greek Wikipedia members can confirm that these sites are legitimate.
- - There was 1 article from alfavita.gr regarding the third movement. According to this source, alfavita.gr is one of the most popular news sites in Greece (https://www.e-tetradio.gr/Article/22316/ta-20-koryfaia-enhmerwtika-site-toy-ellhnikoy-internet ) But in any case, it is definitely a legitimate news site.
- - There was 1 article from neolaia.gr about the fourth movement.
- All of these articles were written in different years.
- Apart from this, pages about other university parties already exist in Wikipedia. Like this one, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLOCO
- With the same line of argumentation, shouldn’t the Independent Movements have a page as well? After all, their performance in the elections is consistently better than that of Bloco, their real impact is higher.
- I am not claiming that this article is a super important piece of information, but still, it fills in a gap. It adds to the knowledge base. It could be useful for those who are interested in Greek university elections.
- Regarding neutrality:
- - I only listed these 4 specific parties because these are the only ones that have received media attention so far. (Or at least I am not aware of any others that have received media attention. Feel free to add more to the list.) I am by no means trying to promote these 4 movements in particular.
- - Regarding the potentially most viewed video, I am just stating facts. The official YouTube account of the New Democracy student wing has no video with more than 52,000 views, while one of the independent parties has a video with 63,000 views. This is an objective statement, I think.
- -Regarding the best result up to date (29.9%), I checked the entire database, and I was not able to find any better result. If anyone else is aware of a better result, I will be happy to be corrected.
- - The database I am using is the one of the communist student wing. The only reason I am doing it is because there is no other database available though! As far as I am aware of, this is the only database with detailed results since 2004.
- Regarding original research:
- - The introduction relies on published research.
- - The information about each one of the 4 movements comes from reliable media.
- - The only “original research” I did was summing “other left”, “other right” and “other” to calculate the total percentage in the Timeline section. Everything else is documented.
- These are my 2 drachmas! ( I mean… cents!) I am happy to be corrected, and I am also more than happy to hear suggestions for improvement. In any case, thanks for taking the time to read the article!
- (PS: As the author, my opinion is to KEEP the article.)
- ArchidamusIII (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I gathered some data about the media I mentioned:
- According to this source https://www.moneyreview.gr/society/13952/kathimerines-ekdoseis-kai-neolaia-gr-mazi/, neolaia.gr had 1,000,000 monthly visitors and had published more than 110,000 articles in 2021.
- According to this source, neolaia.gr has 900,000 monthly visitors and 4,500,000 page views in May 2014. https://www.advertising.gr/advertising-2/paramedia/rekor-episkepseon-gia-to-neolaia-gr-55244/
- Regarding alfavita.gr, this source ranked it 5th in 2020: https://edessaikoskosmos.gr/eidisis/poia-einai-ta-megalytera-eidiseografika-site-se-episkepsimotita-stin-ellada/
- I am not claiming that these sources are 100% reliable and that the numbers are 100% accurate, but we are definitely talking about serious media that have an impact in Greece. There are not student websites, these are serious nationwide media. (The same applies to Luben.tv and Neopolis.gr as explained earlier.)
- ArchidamusIII (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Vish Burra
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This person clearly does meet WP:Notability (people)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloern (talk • contribs) 16:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Durie Kallahal
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The Article does not have notability, according to
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- Delete Very few sources out there. Nothing of note to raise the notability to WP requirements either. A municipal government figure would need much more to have an article to themself.— Iadmc♫talk 02:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
Registered Agents Inc.
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The article's primary justification is that it is the parent company for
- Keep as there has been sustained and an increasing amount of coverage by ]
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- Sources don't have to have to be "focused on the company as the central topic" to 'count' towards notability, but whenever we have sources actually focused on the company, then that is a strong indication of notability. WP:ITSIMPORTANT argument in reverse. You are saying that their role isn't (in your opinion) important enough to the events of the day to justify all the attention that the sources dedicated to them. However, we care about whether they got coverage from the world at large. We do not care whether the reason for their coverage seems important to us. If the subject got coverage for enabling something, then the subject got coverage. "Why" or "for what" or "do we agree that they deserved that coverage?" is irrelevant. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
Electoral firsts in Guernsey
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Does not meet
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- Merge to States of Guernsey#History – information is sourced and can reasonably be noted there. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
SUPERM
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Notability concerns; no reliable sources; possible original research BoraVoro (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Nationalism in Trinidad and Tobago
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Nationalism in Trinidad and Tobago may well be a thing, but I struggle to see where this article even addresses it. It is written like an essay and attempts to divine nationalism from an arbitrary selection of social and cultural issues, apparently with mostly irrelevant sourcing. For example source [3] is attached to the claim that calypso music is a form of Trinbagonian nationalism... the source, besides not really being an RS, says nothing of the sort. The dispute with Barbados should more properly be in
There is no RS that unifies these disparate topics - Trinbagonian culture, the dispute with Barbados, and LGBT rights - into a single topic about nationalism in the country. Thus, in my view, the article should be deleted. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 06:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep and stubify - It's pretty clear to me that the existence of books like https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Race_and_Nationalism_in_Trinidad_and_Tob.html?id=z2sKAQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y (and plenty of other coverage I could find trivial) make this a notable subject. That said, the nom's critiques of the article are legitimate, it is certainly not acceptable to cite a stats database and from it draw conclusions about opportunity. There's a strong case to WP:TNT almost everything that's there at the moment. BrigadierG (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Decisive keep - "Trinibagonian nationalism" obviously passes GNG from the first page of google results[1][2][3] and would likely have even more material across WPLibrary or other databases, nomination fails BEFORE and NOTCLEANUP. Even stubification seems extreme, the bit on the history of the country could easily stay if its just renamed to "Background" or something of the sort; Seeking independence from another country is going to involve some amount of nationalistic thinking no matter what, that just falls under SKYISBLUE. Orchastrattor (talk) 20:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- The history bit should only be retained if RSes talking about Trinbagonian nationalism in its history are added to the article. We have the Culture of Trinidad and Tobago and History of Trinidad and Tobago already. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- If the existence of the subject can already be established through RS then whether an additional source specifically refers to the subject by name or not becomes a question of due weight, not verification. The point of a background section is to summarize plainly relevant information from parent topics, why shouldn't such information be present across multiple articles if it is relevant to all of them? Orchastrattor (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The history bit should only be retained if RSes talking about Trinbagonian nationalism in its history are added to the article. We have the Culture of Trinidad and Tobago and History of Trinidad and Tobago already. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep clearly a notable topic based on the sources and books in the article. The problems raised by the nominator can be addressed through editing. SportingFlyer T·C 17:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Tony Curzon Price
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This subject fails
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- Weak keep per The Telegraph (well beyond the WP:CSD thing?) WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
Adarsh Liberal
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Years ago this term was circulated once on social media by right wing trolls, but there is no significant coverage of this non-notable term in any reliable sources. Ratnahastin (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Internet celebrity. Although, that seems to have a potential move afoot to rename it "Influencer". IMO, "Influencer" and "Adarsh Liberal" have a lot in common - they're both flash terminology of the moment, used to define any number of personalities. — Maile (talk) 03:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete : Article cleary fails WP:GNG. Written in POV and fan voice.च҉न҉्҉द҉्҉र҉ ҉व҉र҉्҉ध҉न҉ Message 12:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Comment: I wouldn't merge, the term is too area specific to be known outside the area. Oaktree b (talk) 13:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep The term gained some traction online [2] and [3]. Oaktree b (talk) 13:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable term from social media and memes. WP:DICDEF. RangersRus (talk) 15:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
Liberales Institut
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- Let's start by ignoring the WP:NMEDIA's "frequently cited by other reliable sources" as a possibility. As for sources, this Swiss-German article looks potentially useful, and I notice that the article at the French Wikipedia cites five sources (none of which are the org's website). WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
Institut Constant de Rebecque
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Andh Bhakt
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Lack of Notability . च҉न҉्҉द҉्҉र҉ ҉व҉र҉्҉ध҉न҉ Message 20:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - I don't see significant coverage. There can be "blind followers" of just anybody. Implying anything like "only Narendra Modi has blind followers" is an absurd POV. Ratnahastin (talk) 02:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also nominated: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adarsh Liberal (3rd nomination). Ratnahastin (talk) 02:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Andh bhakt is a word getting very popular nowadays. Lot of People know about it and some don't . Wikipedia is a online encyclopedia where people know information about lots for matter. And the popular trending matter should be in Wikipedia . Therealbey (talk) 21:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Western Canada Youth Parliament
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Fails GNG. Nothing in Google news or books. Nothing when searching in cbc.ca. Only primary sources in plain Google search. LibStar (talk) 04:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Elizabeth Young, Lady Kennet
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- Comment - I have added in reviews of two of her publications. She wrote under the name Elizabeth Young, which makes searching for discussions of her work a challenge. I suspect there is more coverage of her work, but it requires sifting through articles about similar people. DaffodilOcean (talk) 21:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I find reviews for multiple books. I also added back some of the text that had been removed prior to the AFD nomination. While this text needs citations (and is now marked as such), it is useful to know in order to find the sources needed. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Arthur Sweetser
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- Comment: I've been able to locate a few sources on Sweetser. Per this book,
Sweetser's (1888-1968) was a journalist and League of Nations' staff member whose dense and global relations almost completely escaped historians' attention
, so it seems like he was an important figure but just hasn't been written about too much. I was also able to find some biographical coverage in a few different pages of this book. Additionally, this contemporary journal article provides coverage of him and one of his books. If this article is kept, this brief note contains biographical info which can be used to source it. There are around 2,000 mentions of him on newspapers.com for the period between 1915 and 1945; I haven't gone through all of them of course, but [4][5][6] were some big mentions that came up. Additionally, his obituaries ([7][8]) provide further biographical information which can be used to source the article if it is kept. Curbon7 (talk) 21:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 18:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: This as well, gives a few paragraphs to his career to that point [9] and a book review here [10] Oaktree b (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Ayatollah Khamenei's letter to students at U.S. universities
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Does not need to be a separate article and not notable. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, but article requires significant improvement.
- Coverage that is at least potentially RS (not necessarily complete) which is not currently included in the article:
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- Keep The subjects passes the WP:GNG criteria certainly. Besides the sources listed by FortunateSons there are other reliable sources like Newsweek (another article by Newsweek), the hill, and Fox News. Moreover, the supreme leader is considered notable enough so his letters sparks significant coverage by the sources. Btw, I created the page. --Mhhossein talk 09:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)]
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- Delete this does seem to fail ]
- Khamenei's letter went out on May 30, and you say on May 31 that there is not "sustained coverage"? ping on reply) 03:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)]
- No, I said it needs sustained coverage, and the article's pretty bad. Furthermore, all of the sources found so far are from last month - it certainly hasn't been very SUSTAINED yet... SportingFlyer T·C 22:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think you are not talking about a daily coverage or we need to AFD many articles on that basis, but still one can see fresh sources published on June 2nd, June 3rd, June 4th, and today (June 5th). Mhhossein talk 06:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- We don't need daily coverage, no one is suggesting that. None of those are really directly on topic, though. SportingFlyer T·C 05:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I pity the closer on this, but it's now 8 June and there hasn't been sustained coverage of the event, meaning WP:NOTNEWS still applies. Many of the keep !votes are simply "it's important" without addressing our policies. SportingFlyer T·C 17:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Can you tell us what "sustained coverage" means to you? Are you suggesting everyday or every week there must be a new news article published on the same topic? I find it unreasonable for you to demand "sustained coverage" just 1 week after the topic comes into existence. ping on reply) 23:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- WP:GNG as multiple reliable sources cover it. It's very likely that it will have some enduring significance to future coverage of student protests given the sources already used by the article. --PKMNLives (talk) 23:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Can you tell us what "sustained coverage" means to you? Are you suggesting everyday or every week there must be a new news article published on the same topic? I find it unreasonable for you to demand "sustained coverage" just 1 week after the topic comes into existence.
- I pity the closer on this, but it's now 8 June and there hasn't been sustained coverage of the event, meaning
- We don't need daily coverage, no one is suggesting that. None of those are really directly on topic, though. SportingFlyer T·C 05:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think you are not talking about a daily coverage or we need to AFD many articles on that basis, but still one can see fresh sources published on June 2nd, June 3rd, June 4th, and today (June 5th). Mhhossein talk 06:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes? We don't have articles because they may achieve notability in the future. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, I said it needs sustained coverage, and the article's pretty bad. Furthermore, all of the sources found so far are from last month - it certainly hasn't been very SUSTAINED yet... SportingFlyer T·C 22:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Khamenei's letter went out on May 30, and you say on May 31 that there is not "sustained coverage"?
- Merge to Ayatollah Khamenei. The letter is a work of a notable person, not a notable work. BD2412 T 01:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep, it passes WP:GNG. As more news comes in, it can be improved to pass the enduring notability as well. Ghazaalch (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete WP:NOTNEWS Hosseinronaghi (talk) 14:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep ofcourse https://search.brave.com/search?q=khamenei+letter+american+student&source=android many sources have written Baratiiman (talk) 16:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is not Fawiki [11] Baratiiman (talk) 16:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NOTNEWS This article is not important enough to be on Wikipedia (Encyclopaedia's article). It's more like propaganda. Déjà vu • ✉ 00:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)]
- For those who point to reliable sources covering it deeply (listed by me and FortunateSons) hence establishing the WP:Notability. Now let's see if NOTNEWS is even applicable here:
- Original reporting: Easily rebutted. The current article is written based on secondary reliable sources, so there is no original reporting.
- News reports: "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events." I wonder how users realized, less than 24 hours [12] after the official publication of the letter, that the subject does not have an "enduring notability"! This is while some sources are published after 48 hours ago [13], let alone those published some hours ago [14].
- Who's who and Celebrity gossip and diary: Easily rebutted. The current article is not even about an individual.
- WP:GNG is passed and the enduring notability assessment requires more time to pass. --Mhhossein talk 13:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)]
- For those who point to
- Note to the closing admin: Multiple users are coming from Fa wiki with some having their first AFD !vote here. There seems to be an attempt aimed at defecting the consensus building process here. --Mhhossein talk 12:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Ayatollah Khamenei No idea why this is a standalone article, if it's so notable just add it to the existing biography. --TylerBurden (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep. Such interactions by the head of state of a theocracy to a significant section of Western society is quite rare. As a comment it would be nice to have this in Wikisource if applicable. Borgenland (talk) 17:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge about one sentence into Ayatollah Khamenei, where it is entirely missing, as an unjustified SPINOUT. No objection to delete either, yet merge is the optimum. gidonb (talk) 02:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- Hence my proposal to merge about one sentence. The fact that an article is long is not a reason to disconnect it from the present. gidonb (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- But the article proposed for deletion is 521 words currently. It makes no sense to bloat an article that (per ping on reply) 23:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- But the article proposed for deletion is 521 words currently. It makes no sense to bloat an article that (per
- Hence my proposal to merge about one sentence. The fact that an article is long is not a reason to disconnect it from the present. gidonb (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Khamanei's previous such letter (ping on reply) 04:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- I only cite above to indicate that there is expectation that this article too should have enduring notabilityping on reply) 23:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- I only cite above to indicate that there is expectation that this article too should have enduring notability
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- Merge to Ali Khamenei. The letter is a work of a notable person, not a notable work. The Banner talk 14:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge. WP:NOPAGE. this article only makes sense of broader contexts and is better covered in the responses section of 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses or in Ali Khamenei User:Sawerchessread (talk) 17:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Merge with Walsh90210 (talk) 23:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- Delete WP:NOTNEWS --AriyaNavid (talk) 08:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep: The title's notability is proved by sources pointed by other users. We can have a standalone article. The subject had a sustained coverage although the letter was released less than 2 weeks ago.Ali Ahwazi (talk) 09:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Yes, Wikipedia is obviously notable. The sources in the article are enough to say that there was significant coverage, to the point where original research is unnecessary. -PKMNLives (talk) 19:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Merge to relevant articles, far too soon to have an article. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
La guerra civile
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This article is very odd. It started life as what appears to be a personal essay/content fork about Italian politics (entirely sourced to La guerra civile) under the title Terrorism in Italy since 1945, then at some point someone misinterpreted the content as about the book itself and content about that book introduced and the essay stuff removed, so for the past 13 years it's been about the book, but under the original title. I tried to find sources under that title, failed for 20 minutes, realized what happened, and moved the page.
Anyway, still can't find any reviews/analysis/sources. It's probable they may exist given the language barrier and very generic title, but I couldn't find any. If sufficient sources are presented I can withdraw. As an ATD if there are no sources redirect to the author Giovanni Pellegrino. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Comment article is currently a redirect. Given the vagueness of the term, and the target page being aWP:BLP, I support deleting this impractical, foreign language redirect.Dan the Animator 00:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]- It was not a redirect when I afd'd it: this was done out of process. I'll revert that.
- It was a book he wrote. It is an acceptable redirect on that front, especially if the book is cited. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh got it, thanks! For the restored article, the only citation is to the book itself, which doesn't help establish the notability of the book. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect called "La guerra civile (book)". Given that the phrase "la guerra civile" can mean/refer to almost anything on the page Civil War, I'll leave to other editors to rule on the chance that a reader using this redirect would be thinking of the book and not some other meaning. Cheers, Dan the Animator 15:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's all good. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies! I redirected it, thinking it was a PROD not an Afd (:D) I read your rationale but didn't read the rest of the tag properly, and just BLARed it all. Sorry for that..-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Giovanni Pellegrino would be a suitable ATD (but once this discussion is finished indeed).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Notional results of the 2019 United Kingdom general election by 2024 constituency
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These are not official election results; they are projections by a pair of private researchers. As a result, this article appears to be
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- Very strong keep
- No, these are notional results used by BBC for the upcoming election, and notional results are an essential part when new boundaries are introduced in the UK. Thomediter (talk) 23:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- They're addressed in detail in WP:STANDALONE page? And why are there no other pages of notional results for other elections prior to a constituency boundary shift? Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)]
- They're not adressed in enough detail, if the voting figures are missing, they still matter. Just because there is no page previously doesn't make the page irrelevant. There are numerous examples of this such there being a page about Portugal in the Eurovision Song Contest 1977. Thomediter (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)]
- They're not adressed in enough detail, if the voting figures are missing, they still matter. Just because there is no page previously doesn't make the page irrelevant. There are numerous examples of this such there being a page about
- They're addressed in detail in
- Delete (which, just to be clear, is very strong too, but we don't need to specify that). This is a fork from ten year test. It is also excessive detail for an encyclopaedic article. We should summarise that in prose and link to a source with the detail. This is, essentially, a kind of news reporting. It is not an encyclopaedic article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 06:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)]
- The notional results will ALWAYS be relevant to compare how voters changed preference from 2019 to 2024. Again, I have to point out that a lot of news organizations uses these notional results for this purpose. Thomediter (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- The ten-year-test argument fails because it is already standard Wikipedia practice to use Thrasher+Rallings notionals from previous boundary reviews when calculating swings. Go to any constituency article and the swing in the 2010 results is the swing from the 2005 notionals- e.g. York Outer (UK Parliament constituency). This is well over ten years ago. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 13:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- The 10 year test asks whether this page, as a subject in its own right, will be relevant in 10 years. A parliamentary constituency article will be relevant in 10 years, and the 2024 general election article will be relevant in 10 years. This article forks out some projections and treats those as a subject in their own right, but they are not independently notable. The projection is of interest to pundits now, but it will only ever be independently notable if secondary sources in the future decide to treat the subject of these notional results, for some reason, separate from the election itself. That looks like the clearest of possible 10YT fails. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The list has detailed data which will be used in the election coverage. This page is increasingly important with the upcoming general election. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is WP:NOTDATABASE, regardless of how important the data is. The data is discussed on two other pages and linked to from there for anyone who needs it. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Wikipedia is
- Those that want to keep this: Are there any more sources? There's two decent enough articles talking about this, but it's marginal at the moment. SportingFlyer T·C 02:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Michel Pontremoli
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Doesn't meet
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- Comment could you elaborate on why none of the sources meet BASIC in your opinion? FortunateSons (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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1978 West Virginia judicial elections
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- 1980 West Virginia judicial elections (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 1982 West Virginia judicial elections (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The West Virginia judicial election articles for 1978, 1980, and 1982 all fail
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- Keep, as a malformed nomination. The justification given is an alias of WP:INDISCRIMINATE, which is fairly clear on what constitutes indiscriminate information, and none of the examples apply: a judicial election is not a "summary-only example of a creative work". It is not a "lyrics database". It is not an "excessive description of unexplained statistics". It is not "an exhaustive log of software updates". The third option mentions election statistics, but describes "unexplained" data taken out of context that might be too lengthy or confusing for readers: vote totals for each candidate are the opposite of that. WP:INDISCRIMINATE plainly does not apply to a straightforward description of an election. P Aculeius (talk) 11:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)]
- The spirit of NOTDB is that data should be presented with independent sourcing to explain its importance. These articles are purely election results. Maybe merging them into one article with a general description of WV judicial elections would meet NLIST, but as of now, I don't think that these meet notability guidelines and NOPAGE applies. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Keepper ]- I've now explained a bit more above why I think it fails NOTDB; I agree that I should have provided more of an explanation in my initial rationale. It's also not clear to me what ADHERENCE is trying to get at. The implication of linking to the policy is that I'm incorporating it by reference. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have struck my !vote in the absence of evidence of GNG. INDISCRIMINATE does not say anything about explaining importance. NOTSTATS says "statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing", which may be what the first sentence of INDISCRIMINATE is talking about. I don't think anyone could be confused by these election results. James500 (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- The topic of West Virginia judicial elections satisfies GNG: [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21]. Only 1980 West Virginia judicial elections actually contains a single state supreme court election. James500 (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- If that article is created, I would support a merge of the Supreme Court portion of the 1980 article to that page, and redirect the rest. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know if I have time to create an article on West Virginia judicial elections during this AfD. In the absence of such an article, I think that at least some of the material on the state supreme court election in 1980 West Virginia judicial elections be merged to Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia#Elections. I am satisfied that the state supreme court elections satisfy LISTN. There is also coverage of Judge Thomas E McHugh in newspapers, and coverage elsewhere such as [22]. James500 (talk) 17:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- If that article is created, I would support a merge of the Supreme Court portion of the 1980 article to that page, and redirect the rest. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've now explained a bit more above why I think it fails NOTDB; I agree that I should have provided more of an explanation in my initial rationale. It's also not clear to me what ADHERENCE is trying to get at. The implication of linking to the policy is that I'm incorporating it by reference. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: An WP:ATD would be a redirect/merge to 1978 West Virginia elections, but that target does not currently exist. Curbon7 (talk) 17:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)]
- @Curbon7: There are some other alternatives. We could move this to 1978 West Virginia elections and create empty headers tagged as needing expansion for other elected offices (there is also a 1978 United States Senate election in West Virginia); or, we could merge all three articles in this nomination into a 1970s–80s West Virginia judicial elections article, or just a West Virginia judicial elections article, with links out to articles covering years not in this article. BD2412 T 18:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't oppose creation of West Virginia judicial elections and a merge to that. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merging Supreme Court elections may be appropriate, but not the trial court elections. Even for current elections like 2020 West Virginia elections, we only have the statewide elections, not the non-notable local-level ones. There are so many of those that are simply not covered. Reywas92Talk 01:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- That makes sense. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merging Supreme Court elections may be appropriate, but not the trial court elections. Even for current elections like 2020 West Virginia elections, we only have the statewide elections, not the non-notable local-level ones. There are so many of those that are simply not covered. Reywas92Talk 01:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't oppose creation of West Virginia judicial elections and a merge to that. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Curbon7: There are some other alternatives. We could move this to 1978 West Virginia elections and create empty headers tagged as needing expansion for other elected offices (there is also a 1978 United States Senate election in West Virginia); or, we could merge all three articles in this nomination into a 1970s–80s West Virginia judicial elections article, or just a West Virginia judicial elections article, with links out to articles covering years not in this article. BD2412 T 18:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all These are not notable elections - the ]
- Delete all I do not think ]
- Delete all: The elections in circuit court is rarely ever notable outside the county/circuit that the court is in. And sometimes not even that. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Reply to relister Liz, Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia#Elections does exist. Therefore a valid merger target already exists. James500 (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Next Assam Legislative Assembly election
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For similar recent AfDs, see - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Next_Goa_Legislative_Assembly_election (July 2022), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Next Goa Legislative Assembly election (2nd nomination) (2 April), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2027 Goa Legislative Assembly election (19 May), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2027 Gujarat Legislative Assembly election (19 May) Soni (talk) 13:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - This is the second AfD on this topic. I previously nominated this article, and the consensus was to keep it. I continue to support the previous decision. For reference: Previous discussion.Hitro talk 22:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Next elections pass ]
- I waited for the 2 other AFDs from this month to close, just to be sure this was not a one-off of me misevaluating Crystal. But mainly -
If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented. Examples of appropriate topics include the 2028 U.S. presidential election and 2032 Summer Olympics. By comparison, the 2044 U.S. presidential election and 2048 Summer Olympics are not appropriate article topics if nothing can be said about them that is verifiable and not original research.
- I searched and found no sources talking about the election. I didn't find any consensus about next elections in any notability guidelines I could see. I found 5 (+2) AFDs that suggested deletion is the correct approach, and just 1 that didn't.
- This topic also needs a talk page notification and/or a higher level consensus established somewhere (I don't know where), otherwise each AFD will end at a different inconsistent place. But until I see such higher level consensus, my read of both Crystal and prior consensus says it's pretty clear it should be a delete. Soni (talk) 23:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree, there is already coverage of this election: [23] [24] along with articles about new delineation. SportingFlyer T·C 23:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah that Hindu article (published 5 days ago) is definitely talking directly about the elections.
- I disagree on the livemint article, it's not coverage of the elections as much as just "BJP leader stated something about Hindu-Muslim divide in Congress". It's not significant, and they only mention it as a "in a few years".
- I missed a couple other articles on my before check - [25] [26] so I do agree there is significant enough coverage for the election. Soni (talk) 04:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree, there is already coverage of this election: [23] [24] along with articles about new delineation. SportingFlyer T·C 23:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Too many of these future prediction pages. WP:TOOSOON. Way down in the future and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, nor is it a collection of unverifiable content. RangersRus (talk) 12:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)]
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- Keep I guess I support keeping this article now. See above comment. Coverage is now significant enough. Soni (talk) 04:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep In established democracies, the next election is not a violation of WP:CRYSTAl. Sourcing and existing information is sufficient. --Enos733 (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete There's just not enough here for an election that is almost two years off; the only substance is the date itself. Failing that, it should be moved to 2026 Assam Legislative Assembly election since this has a set date. Mangoe (talk) 18:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)]
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- Strong Keep Per comments Pharaoh496 (talk) 21:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
India-Latin America relations
- India-Latin America relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Articles on diplomatic relations are supposed to be country specific as long as they concern modern period. This article's title is too broad, inaccurate and whatever is added here can be already found on other articles.Ratnahastin (talk) 05:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't share that understanding of what counts as a legitimate article at all; there are many articles concerning country-to-region relations, such as Africa–India relations, Sino-Latin America relations, etc. Also, I would like to ask which other articles most of the information in this article can be found at. GreekApple123 (talk) 05:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Africa–India relations is based on historical relations while Sino-Latin America relations shall also require deletion.Ratnahastin (talk) 06:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep or Merge the article is well formatted and cited with many references which covers this topic in depth. It does spun around the topic, passes general notability. However if merging is an option then I'd not oppose it merging in Foreign relations of India. Based Kashmiri (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The page is well written and has many reliable sources with significant coverage on the India-Latin economic and trade ties and history. Passes WP:GNG. I am also not opposed to Merge to Foreign relations of India. RangersRus (talk) 13:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete. Per nom. Duplicative of other articles. No point. Yilloslime (talk) 15:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom or Merge into other Indian articles about relations with Latin America
- 48JCL (talk) 13:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep The article is well sourced and covers India's relations with Latin America. With India's growing economy, this a topic which has been getting covered these past years. Dash9Z (talk) 07:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep A brief look at the references in the article was enough to convince me that India–Latin America relations are a notable topic covered significantly by reliable sources. Those are reputable, scholarly sources, like The Diplomat and several journal articles, discussing this subject at length. Toadspike [Talk] 23:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Foreign relations of India, where it makes more sense for now. Content could always be split if it becomes more comprehensive. Dan the Animator 00:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Politics proposed deletions
Politicians
Ossanda Liber
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I know it has only been two months since the last nomination but that ended as no consensus, which was not an endorsement of notability. There has been another nationwide election since then and this candidate is still getting under 0.5%. There are sources about her, yes, but they're mainly discussing her candidacies and are part of a
- Comment: Liber's electoral history: 2021 Lisbon local election (0.36%), 2022 national election (voters in other European countries constituency) (0.08%), 2024 national election (Lisbon constituency) (0.18%), 2024 European election (0.18%). Not sure at which point someone becomes notable the hard way, like Bill Boaks. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - I translated this article into English from Portuguese as part of Women in Red. This page could potentially be merged into Nova Direita as it is considerably larger. 18:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete We do not keep articles on failed political candidates for a variety of different reasons under WP:NOT, and she's not notable for being the leader of a very small political party either. It's not impossible she'll be notable in the future, but at the moment I think this is an easy delete. SportingFlyer T·C 19:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Merge to Walsh90210 (talk) 19:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
Alireza Ghasemi Farzad
- Alireza Ghasemi Farzad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I first saw this article when I was searching about the article containing a list of current Iran governors-general. I prefer the information of this article be transferred on the article that contains the list of governors in Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy365248 (talk • contribs) 14:12, June 10, 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Fixing malformed nomination. I am neutral at this time. --Finngall talk 16:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment you don’t need a deletion nomination to achieve a merge. In any case we have many other articles about Iranian governors, and saying you’d prefer a merge isn’t a deletion rationale. Mccapra (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Hamed Ameli
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I first saw this article when I was searching about the article containing a list of current Iran governors-general. I prefer the information of this article be transferred on the article that contains the list of governors in Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy365248 (talk • contribs) 14:09, June 10, 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Fixing malformed nomination. I am neutral at this time. --Finngall talk 16:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment you don’t need a deletion nomination to achieve a merge. In any case we have many other articles about Iranian governors, and saying you’d prefer a merge isn’t a deletion rationale. Mccapra (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Mohammad-Hadi Imanieh
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I first saw this article when I was searching about the article containing a list of current Iran governors-general. I prefer the information of this article be transferred on the article that contains the list of governors in Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy356248 (talk • contribs) 16:40, June 10, 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Fixing malformed nomination. I am neutral at this time. --Finngall talk 17:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment you don’t need a deletion nomination to achieve a merge. In any case we have many other articles about Iranian governors, and saying you’d prefer a merge isn’t a deletion rationale. Mccapra (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Mojtaba Abdollahi
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I first saw this article when I was searching about the article containing a list of current Iran governors-general. I prefer the information of this article be transferred on the article that contains the list of governors in Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy365248 (talk • contribs) 13:27, June 10, 2024 (UTC)
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- Reformatted to add the missing article name by Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Each governor is automatically notable, so there is no reason to delete the article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed . Keep AlexBobCharles (talk) 18:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment you don’t need a deletion nomination to achieve a merge. In any case we have many other articles about Iranian governors, and saying you’d prefer a merge isn’t a deletion rationale. Mccapra (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Johnny Luk
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The subject does not meet general notability requirements or the notability requirements for a politician. The only coverage of the subject is by local and obscure outlets who provide run-of-the-mill coverage of him as a candidate in local elections. thena (talk) 19:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree that subject lacks required notability for an article. Williehuggies (talk)
- Williehuggies (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I also agree that the subject lacks required notability. A bright cold day in april (talk)
- A bright cold day in april (talk) 12:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: By searching with the subject person's Chinese name 陸勤業, I found numerous sources which documented his biography outside of his political career in detail, including Wen Wei Po[27], The News Lens[28], Phoenix Television[29], BBC[30], as well as a Wen Wei Po interview about Hong Kong immigrants' endeavors in the UK[31]. The article has also presented several sources that documented his political career, such as Camden New Journal[32] and Islington Tribune[33]. Adding up both the Chinese and English sources, I think the subject person has obviously met GNG. @Williehuggies and A bright cold day in april: Please take a look at the sources and rationales I presented. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: My bad for not providing Chinese translation in my first comment, I have placed the translated versions of the five Chinese sources below:
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1.Wen Wei Po: In this UK general election, there are 9 British Chinese candidates running, including 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk, who was born in Hong Kong. Luk, who is running for Parliament for the first time, recounts his experience of racial discrimination during his studies, revealing that he was once told to "go back to China." He calls on the Chinese community to speak up more, to drive improvements in the government's policies and funding for the Chinese community, and even to influence the UK's foreign relations with East Asia.
2.The News Lens: This includes 32-year-old Johnny Luk, who contested the Hampstead and Kilburn constituency in the 2019 general election.
3.Phoenix Television: Johnny Luk, 25 years old, followed his parents to immigrate to the UK when he was 10 years old. After graduating from a university in the UK, he now works at a non-profit organization, helping university graduates in the UK realize their entrepreneurial dreams.
4.BBC: "Seeing what is happening (in Hong Kong), I feel very sad," said 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk. Although China is sometimes controversial, the China-UK relationship is still much better than the relationship between Russia and the UK. "I hope I can build a bridge between China and the UK, and enhance mutual understanding," said the 29-year-old Conservative Party candidate Johnny Luk.
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- In my opinion, even if the two English sources discussed below are excluded, these five sources already provided enough SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG and should be kept. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
- In my opinion, even if the two English sources discussed below are excluded, these five sources already provided enough SIGCOV to pass
- Delete. If he's elected in the general election next month, the article can be recreated but for the time being he doesn't meet WP:GNG. As to the Camden New Journal and Islington Tribune articles mentioned by others, these seem to be cut-and-paste jobs from press releases put out by his campaign, which is sadly the norm in British local newspapers. I would argue that they do not constitute significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Lincolnite (talk) 13:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
If you need help with the translations, please let me know as well.(Edit:I have provided translations above.) —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)- Delete - nothing he has done prior to or including his candidacy are notable enough to warrant an article. Half a dozen puff pieces on the same subject is not significant enough to meet the GNG significant coverage requirement. Saltywalrusprkl (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - No evidence at all that it is a cut and paste article from press releases- indeed the examples cited are clearly interviews or written neutrally. Also note it makes no sense to delete an article just before a general election - this deletion request is clearly politically motivated. Editorman75 (talk) 20:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lincolnite: Hi Lincolnite. I have also presented five Chinese sources which documented his life not related to the elections in SIGCOV. Please review the sources I have provided, and enlighten me why you find the notability is still not demonstrated from them.
- Delete - Website already suffers with half a dozen pages for people who do not need one, and given that polling suggests that he will be unlikely to win does not really add to this article's case. Agree with everything else stated so far. Tweedle (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete an article on an unelected political candidate which reads like a CV and who is not otherwise notable. If he wins, we can restore the article. SportingFlyer T·C 19:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The timing of this deletion request seems strange, just weeks before a General Election. His page was up all the way till now, when arguably he is more significant now than before. The only poll that matters is the actual election result, so this comment also does not add to the debate. Editorman75 (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep : He has been mentioned in multiple publications, such as this from the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67370571
- He’s also a regular writer for world federation rowing, an Olympic sport: https://worldrowing.com/2023/05/10/the-irish-powerhouse-that-is-skibbereen-rowing-club/
- I see absolutely no reason to move to delete this article, other than political motivation from rival candidates. This should be a factual and unbiased repository, regardless of potential election outcomes this is a person of note to be recorded. Editorman75 (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The first editor suggested he was a local candidate. This is not true, he is not a candidate for the local elections - but for the General Election in 2019 and 2024[4][5]. That should heighten his notability. This was also highlighted by PR Week[6], a major publication. He was also mentioned by a range of major papers introducing the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, including the Evening Standard[7]. In terms of other notability, he is clearly been a writer[8] for Al Jazeera, a major publication and the HuffPost[9]. RogueWanderer29 (talk) 21:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep WP:SIGCOV in both UK and Chinese language sources. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
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Shahid Siddiqui (politician)
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Recreated after soft delete. Still no evidence of meeting
- Delete: Still nothing to establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Probably have enough for a basic article [34] and [35] are RS. What's used in the article now are primary sources. Oaktree b (talk) 19:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The first one doesn’t really counter towards GNG for me. The second one I can’t assess right now and I don’t know why. The first one just isn’t enough for me to reconsider my !vote. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Those appear to be about a completely different person with the same name. SportingFlyer T·C 19:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- The first one doesn’t really counter towards GNG for me. The second one I can’t assess right now and I don’t know why. The first one just isn’t enough for me to reconsider my !vote. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as politician is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. RangersRus (talk) 14:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete for failing WP:NPOL - the two articles mentioned above are about Shahid Siddiqui and not this person, the entire article is two sentences long, the three sources in the article are not great for notability, and there are two external links making this potentially promotional. SportingFlyer T·C 19:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
Nick Crofts
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Gary Hynds
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Malek Rahmati
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I first saw this article when I was searching about the 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash. I prefer the information of this article in other websites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by anonymous (talk • contribs) 11:34 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Per our guidelines on notability of politicians, province-wide officeholders are notable. Moreover, there is adequate RS coverage of the subject. Davey2116 (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. Why not merge his article into the article containing the list of current Iran governors-general? That would be a better aternative. (talk) 10:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep He was the governor-general of a province; that alone combined with coverage in sources makes him notable. Also what does
I prefer the information of this article in other websites
even mean? We don't get articles deleted because of our personal preferences. Keivan.fTalk 18:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)- What I meant when I said I prefer the information of this article in other websites, I meant by either websites outside Wikipedia or the Persian language Wikipedia. (talk) 13:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The OP's nomination rationale doesn't make sense. There are plenty of sources in the article to demonstrate notability. Toughpigs (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Stephanie Cameron
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- I was hoping to add some more info in a couple hours but won't be able to so I won't contest the deletion. DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 11:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- You definitely should be able to make improvements. This nomination doesn’t stop you. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I looked for her and found many people with this name... I put Tasmania in the search box and found very little about her: fails ]
Attack on Mette Frederiksen
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- Comment — An attack on a current head of government hardly counts as WP:NOTNEWS. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- Merge to WP:SUSTAINED, take your pick. Yes, an attack on a current head of government can be a notable event, but...]
On 7 June 2024, Frederiksen was purportedly shoved by a man in Kultorvet, Copenhagen.
Frederiksen sat down at a café after the attack.
~Adam (talk · contribs) 14:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC) - Merge to Mette Frederiksen. He wasn't really attacked, he was shoved and the sourcing reflects that. Easily covered in a sentance on the main article. Esolo5002 (talk) 15:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Mette Frederiksen - With all information. Clearly created at an early stage, anyways notable but not for a separate article.BabbaQ (talk) 16:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Mette Frederiksen per above. Uffda608 (talk) 16:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to WP:10YT. Borgenland (talk) 16:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- It slipped my tongue for the past 24 hours but finally, I'm also adding WP:LASTING for merge argument. Borgenland (talk) 15:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- It slipped my tongue for the past 24 hours but finally, I'm also adding
- Merge to Mette Frederiksen. Not an attack really.--Catlemur (talk) 17:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Mette Frederiksen (where incident is already covered) per above. Økonom (talk) 18:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to suspect shouldn't be included in an article until a conviction is secured. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete - This event isn't notable enough to be remembered for any length of time. She was purely injured. The unknown person at the time of writing possibly never had a plan to use any weapons but to just shove. Unlike the other example in the article such as Fico's attempted assassination being an event likely to be remembered because a politician was injured by firearm by someone who opposed the Prime Minister's policies. 71.223.90.84 (talk) 14:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Merge - I agree I was reading the article and thinking that this is too light to be considered attack. What's next, calling an insult an attack on a politician? This is a waste of data. Cganuelas (talk) 19:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. There doesn't seem to be enough relevant information on this to warrant a full article at this time, and from the description of the event, I would suspect very little will be forthcoming. DeemDeem52 (talk) 14:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Ayyalur Subhan Ali
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Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have much, much more and better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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Ibrat Saeed Qureshi
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Fails
- Delete failed candidacy misses WP:NPOL BrigadierG (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- Delete: Fails WP:NPOL as well WP:GNG Saqib (talk) 17:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Carl Balita
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Doesn't appear to be notable independently of his senate run, for which Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill#Political candidates would apply, with the sources given being candidate databases and interviews. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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Delete: FailsWP:ANYBIO. Was literally writing an AfD nom statement only to find it already nominated. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep: I reviewed the sources used by WP:GNG. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep: I reviewed the sources used by
- Keep per ]
- @BrigadierG You might want to look again now that the article has been updated. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sure do. BrigadierG (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BrigadierG You might want to look again now that the article has been updated. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Deleteper above. His imdb page didn't provide additional leads for notability. --Lenticel (talk) 04:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NPOL. Azuredivay (talk) 06:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep I actually found a lot of sources since yesterday that can help explain his notability more than just being a senatorial candidate. Unfortunately I was busy today so I'll just expand the article tomorrow as it's late where I am right now. D-Flo27 (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @D-Flo27 please ping me if you do. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces and everyone else, I've just finished my edits now. Let me know what you think. D-Flo27 (talk) 08:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @D-Flo27 please ping me if you do. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Per D-Flo27
- TheNuggeteer (talk) 09:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per recent expansion, thanks a lot D-Flo27! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby Withdrawal :)? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, although there's still @Azuredivay who hasn't changed votes so not sure if I can withdraw yet! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby Withdrawal :)? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Romy Tiongco
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The article does not meet the notability guidelines of
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- Keep. I think the two programmes on the BBC all about him and the first of these and its report his on him were what led me to start this page and think him notable enough - perhaps via general notability rather than as a politician per se. A political activist, NGO worker and then politician (Msrasnw (talk) 17:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC))
- Comment - maybe you should find more sources, only 2 out of the 7 sources work.
- TheNuggeteer (talk) 00:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If there are 2 "working" sources, that should be enough for WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
- One of the sources is a video source which does not work anymore, is one source okay? TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Our "policy" on this is WP:LINKROT, and it being dead should not be taken against the article, more so if the reference is more than a decade old.
- So no, your premise of this article having just one source doesn't hold. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Our "policy" on this is
- One of the sources is a video source which does not work anymore, is one source okay? TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If there are 2 "working" sources, that should be enough for
- Delete I did a WP:GNG. The non-working links do not necessarily suggest there was secondary coverage of him, either - the magazine just has a wordpress site and the BBC radio bit is an interview, which are not secondary. SportingFlyer T·C 17:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)]
Jono Jumamoy
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The article does not pass
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- delete fails WP:NPOL. GNews Archives just show one article discussing his win of the mayoral post. --Lenticel (talk) 04:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)]
Judith Cajes
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The article does not pass
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- Delete the only sources I can find are related to her slapping someone and COVID lockdowns, which aren't good enough for WP:POLITICIAN. Generally a very minor politician with no major record to speak of. Possible redirect to Roberto Cajes, her husband — Iadmc♫talk 13:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)]
- I dont think the redirect is possible, the redirect does not contain even a sentence of Judith Cajes. TheNuggeteer (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Trinidad is not a large enough city for its mayors to be notable just for being mayor, and she doesn't look like she passes GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 17:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 04:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Declan McDonnell
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There was a discussion in 2011, but I think views on this generally may have developed. The sources don’t indicate
- Delete: Mayor could be notable, but I don't see much coverage of that position he held; [36] is typical of what I find, reporting on the goings-on of the city council, nothing to help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to WP:ATD. (As noted, subject's main claim to notability is as mayor of Galway. And is otherwise, albeit sitting quite a bit longer than other councillors, covered to the same degree as other local politicians/reps. However, outright deletion seems a bit drastic. As most notability is tied with the main office he held, I'd just redirect there.) Guliolopez (talk) 21:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Redirect to ]
Samantha Squalia
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No prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can write and source something more substantive and better-sourced than this, but just using the city government's own website to prove that she exists is not how you get a mayor over the wikibar. Bearcat (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete This is the mayor of a small-ish (41K pop) town. The sources I can find are both routine (Mayor was elected, mayor did job) and limited to local news sources (again, a small locality). This person has been in office only since January, 2024 so while there may be potential it is clearly as yet unfulfilled. Lamona (talk) 22:10, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Michelle Keane
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This candidate has not achieved general notability. The one reference here to a national newspaper (article on Michael Healy-Rae visiting a mosque) doesn’t mention Keane. Otherwise, I don’t see that mentions of Keane in Radio Kerry, satisfy
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- Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete. WP:NPOL are not met. We do not have sufficient sources to support the text of the article and establish basic facts - not to mention sufficient sources to establish SIGCOV/GNG. Guliolopez (talk) 11:55, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete - per nom. She fails WP:GNG. Spleodrach (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete. People do not get articles just for standing as candidates in county council elections, even winning a county council election would still require her to pass WP:NPOL #2 (where the test hinges on sourcing and substance) rather than handing her an automatic notability freebie, and this article is sourced nowhere near well enough to suggest a reason why she would qualify for special treatment over and above other unelected county council candidates. Bearcat (talk) 16:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
Durie Kallahal
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The Article does not have notability, according to
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- Delete Very few sources out there. Nothing of note to raise the notability to WP requirements either. A municipal government figure would need much more to have an article to themself.— Iadmc♫talk 02:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)]
Dhananjay Ghosh
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Violates many versions of
- Delete: Non-- notable politicians and not passes WP:NPOL. --- Infínítybσy7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 16:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)]
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Sajjala Ramakrishna Reddy
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Notabillity issue. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Care to specify, how is this individual not meeting notability requirements? Oaktree b (talk) 19:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Ceyhun Osmanli
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Being an Azerbaijani Deputy does not make a person encyclopedic. Not according to the criteria. --Correspondentman (talk) 11:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep yes it does. Members of national parliaments are notable under ]
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- Keep: Clearly meets WP:NPOL as an Azeri MP. I have to question if the nominator even read the guideline they are presumably citing. Curbon7 (talk) 20:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)]
Sakib Salajin
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Article does not meet notability guidelines of
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- Delete not seeing a GNG pass here either. Mccapra (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Donna Smith (politician)
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Neither being a county supervisor in a largely rural county of less than 100,000 people nor running for the US House of Representatives give automatic notability, and as far as I can tell she received only
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- Delete no claim to notability BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 00:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Neal Potter
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Biography of a politician, not
As his career was several decades ago and thus might not Google well, I'd be perfectly happy to withdraw this if somebody with much better access to archived Arlington-area media coverage from the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s than I've got can find enough to salvage it -- but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 11:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- @Bearcat: Try https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/ > https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/27/ > his name in Maryland newspapers. The Frederick News-Post seems to carry the most coverage, with hundreds of articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep -- based on his position as a county executive, I expected to give a delete opinion as that's the normal outcome for such roles. But a staff-written obituary in the Washington Post suggests he was considered notable beyond the typical holder of such a position. The other details (Plaza named for him) wouldn't generally be enough on their own, but together with the obit pushes above the bar for GNG keep. (would not pass WP:PROF on its own). -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 19:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Arlington County is literally suburbs of Washington DC, so the existence of a staff-written obituary in the Washington Post just suggests the exact same purely local notability that any county executive in any county could always show, and is not in and of itself enough to singlehandedly determine that he's more notable than the norm. So we would need to see a hell of a lot more than just that alone. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed I thought of that, but the Washington Post is not a local newspaper in the same way that say that Arlington Sun-Gazzette is. It was written by their same obituary staff as their other obituaries. I think that a look at their current obituaries will show that obituaries in the paper are dedicated to people whom they believe have more than local notability. I don't see, for instance, other local officials or former high school sports coaches there, except in the paid death notices section. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 22:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Arlington County is literally suburbs of Washington DC, so the existence of a staff-written obituary in the Washington Post just suggests the exact same purely local notability that any county executive in any county could always show, and is not in and of itself enough to singlehandedly determine that he's more notable than the norm. So we would need to see a hell of a lot more than just that alone. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Shahzada Ahsan Ashraf
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Back in 2018, there was a brief discussion about whether caretaker cabinet level positions automatically confer WP:N. The consensus was that they do not, and one has to pass the GNG to have a bio. Based on that discussion, the subject of this BLP does not fall under WP:POLITICIAN and must meet GNG, which he currently does not. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Rashad Aslanov
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Current sources in the article don't pass
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Sayed Abbas Ali Shihab Thangal
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- Keep proved WP:NPOL,He is a community leader, a politician who holds positions, As such, he belongs to the category of a Sayyid of major denominations have generally been held to be notable ~~ User:Spworld2 (talk) 01:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)]
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- Delete most definitely does not pass GNG. This is exactly the sort of BLP our policies are intended to prevent. It’s essentially a promotional profile for a party official based on passing mentions and his relationships with people who are actually notable in our terms. Mccapra (talk) 06:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like a problem that could be solved through editing, rather than deletion. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- It didn't seem like a promotional, with many relatives, it was reflected in the scholar's family, the person holding the posts of the largest legally functioning Islamic youth organization in India. and He is a member of the family circle of Prophet Muhammad in India(Sayyid ) Spworld2 (talk) 04:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Miskin Abdal
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- Keep: Although the article indeed has a lot of problems, these cannot be a reason for deletion. (The most major issue is the large amount of unsourced content, which may simply be removed.) The topic appears to be notable. There is significant coverage among a multitude of sources:[37][38][39][40][41] (The last two sources are solely on the details of his life and works.) Aintabli (talk) 03:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did not find any references to the information added to the wiki page in the citations you provided. All I found were statements by those authors and nothing else. HeritageGuardian (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are 5 links, 2 being sources solely about him. I doubt you checked any of them. Your comment and vote below basically disregards what AfD is meant to be for. On top of this, we can all see you created your account 6 minutes before commenting here. Welcome back, I guess! Aintabli (talk) 02:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)]
- I have checked all your citations from 1 to 5. None of them has any references to the claims made in them and in this Wikipedia article. If you think that I missed them, then you are welcome to present any documentations. HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's not the point of those links. Aintabli (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I took a look to this page https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskin_Abdal. There are a lot of absurd statements, like Safavid King Sultan Hossain visited some village in nowadays republic of Armenia. Safavid King Ismail gave an order to M. Abdal and etc. They are absurd, because kings' orders were not given to anybody, but kept in chancery or diwan. There is no record of King Sultan Hossain visiting some village in that region. It seems articles about this person are hoaxes. HeritageGuardian (talk) 16:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's not the point of those links. Aintabli (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have checked all your citations from 1 to 5. None of them has any references to the claims made in them and in this Wikipedia article. If you think that I missed them, then you are welcome to present any documentations. HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are 5 links, 2 being sources solely about him. I doubt you checked any of them. Your comment and vote below basically disregards
- I did not find any references to the information added to the wiki page in the citations you provided. All I found were statements by those authors and nothing else. HeritageGuardian (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- I was unable to read this citation. I see that it was published in 2001. What kind of document or any evidence it has? thx HeritageGuardian (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I found the citation 6 at https://ia801605.us.archive.org/26/items/huseyn-ismayilov-miskin-abdal-2001/H%C3%BCseyn%20%C4%B0smay%C4%B1lov%20-%20Miskin%20Abdal%20%20-%202001.pdf. It is the same as citation 5 in previous log. There is no references to any documents. HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - references to this article do not cite any documents that could support claims made in it. All of them are opinions of their authors.HeritageGuardian (talk) 21:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- 1. All citation for this article do not reference any well known Safavid literature, although in its first paragraph, it is stated that "many years was in charge of foreign affairs of the Safavid state under Shah Ismail Khatai (1487–1524)." Names of all persons who were in charge of foreign affairs during Shah Ismail are well known. None of them was an ashugh or had nickname Miskin Abdal or was from nowadays territory of Armenia as stated in this article
- 2. At page 38 of the first citation "https://www.academia.edu/40616613" there is a picture supposedly of an order given to M. Abdal by Safavid King Ismail. However, it is fake. Because non of the Safavids Kings had that kind of large seal and usually Safavid orders have seal at the top of the text but not at the bottom. Also, kings' orders were not given to anybody, but kept in chancery.
- 3. In the first paragraph of this article it is stated "He was the founder of the ashugh school" and again referred to this book "https://www.academia.edu/40616613, where there is no references proving this statement.
- 4. The second paragraph states "One of the brightest figures in the history of Azerbaijan, he played an important role in the development of science and art." and refers to a book, where I did not find any proof to this statement. Only statement by its author.
- 5. The third paragraph states "Under the name of Miskin, Abdal (Architect of the soul) was the creator of the literature of Azerbaijani minstrels - ashugh folk singers." to which there is no reference.
- 6. The fourth paragraph states "After many years of service at the court of Shah Ismail I Khatai, in 1524 he returned home. He opened the first school in Sariyagub ... " and refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskin_Abdal#cite_ref-3 However, the referred content does not have anything related to the above statement. So, the fourth paragraph is a completely false statement.
- 7. The rest of the article until the last sentence does not have any citations, so I accepted it as statement of users who created this article. Btw those users were identified as sockpuppets
- 1. All citation for this article do not reference any well known Safavid literature, although in its first paragraph, it is stated that "many years was in charge of foreign affairs of the Safavid state under Shah Ismail Khatai (1487–1524)." Names of all persons who were in charge of foreign affairs during Shah Ismail are well known. None of them was an ashugh or had nickname Miskin Abdal or was from nowadays territory of Armenia as stated in this article
- Due to the above reasons, I recommend this article be deleted immediately. HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have investigated this article in depth and found out that this is a hoax for the following reasons.
- Delete, mostly per WP:TNT. Searching his name on Google Scholar finds sources whose reliability I cannot evaluate stating that there was a sufi by this name at about this time period. For anything beyond that I get the impression that much is folklore (specifically, the epic "Miskin Abdal and Senuber" briefly mentioned in our article). Our article itself reads like it was transcribed from that epic, or maybe from a children's history book based on it. We need to clearly distinguish fact from folklore here, but we cannot do it with the current basis. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)]
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- When you say "Miskin Abdal was definitely not a fictional character" it is difficult to determine whether you mean that (1) someone by that name existed, (2) nobody ever wrote any fiction about him, or (3) the content of our article is not based on fiction. Those are different things and we need to distinguish them clearly. If there is verifiable and reliable content about the factual details of his life, that needs to be sourced. If our article is entirely based on an epic, it should be about the epic, not the character in it. So far the best evidence we have is a Google Books link that tells us the title of a book, which doesn't help resolve these questions. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein, I mean that someone by that name existed. Those are not the only sources, and Google Books has limited preview. See this for example, which is his entry in a biographical dictionary published by a university in Turkey. This is just an example of the variety of sources available about his life and not just his works. Aintabli (talk) 18:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Here are two more sources "solely" about him: paper from an academic journal and a book At this point, there are at least 5 publications shared here that delve into the details of his life and numerous other that are partially about him. As I have underlined, taking Miskin Abdal as a fictional character would be a huge misunderstanding, which you appear to have partially based your vote on. TNT leaves an open door to recreation, and as far as I know, is meant to be for incurable articles that would be timesinks to edit. A merely 50-100 word article does not fit into that description. Aintabli (talk) 22:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- When you say "Miskin Abdal was definitely not a fictional character" it is difficult to determine whether you mean that (1) someone by that name existed, (2) nobody ever wrote any fiction about him, or (3) the content of our article is not based on fiction. Those are different things and we need to distinguish them clearly. If there is verifiable and reliable content about the factual details of his life, that needs to be sourced. If our article is entirely based on an epic, it should be about the epic, not the character in it. So far the best evidence we have is a Google Books link that tells us the title of a book, which doesn't help resolve these questions. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Leonid Cherneha
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This article says nothing other than the subject being a mayor, which fails
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- Delete. Mayors are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to pass reliable sources that enables us to write a substantive article about their political impact: specific things they did, specific projects they spearheaded, specific effects their mayoralty had on the development of the city, and on and so forth. But neither the content nor the sourcing here are up to the level of what's required. Bearcat (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)]
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Daniel Ruiz II
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Chiefs of staff do not count as a political office for purposes of NPOL, and it doesn't seem like there is sufficient coverage to meet the standards of WP:BASIC unfortunately. Deprod by Clearfrienda, not sure which sources they were referring to, perhaps the AP? Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: In cases where there is some substantial coverage I usually object with PRODs in case there's a chance they can be kept. In this case, there's this local 12news.com article and this ktar.com article which both go a 💬 16:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)]
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- Delete I agree with Clearfrienda that the sources provided are not SIGCOV. The 12News source is good, but the rest are routine announcements and/or based on press releases. Toadspike [Talk] 07:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The NYT is a name-check, the KTAR is routine "hey, look at this guy who got elected" stuff. The c12 is more in depth but is rather fluffy and doesn't have the air of a researched piece - it sounds like a restating of an interview. Lamona (talk) 16:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Claudio Ferrada
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- Comment perhaps not notable per WP POL. I'm the author of the page. Feel free to delete or keep it. I have no objections. --Old-AgedKid (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - arguably the post of Presidential Regional Delegate is enough to pass NPOL. The post has its own article in Spanish wikipedia, Delegado presidencial regional de Ñuble , Delegado presidencial regional de Chile . --Soman (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: the WP:BURDEN of demonstrating notability is on those asserting keep. What another language Wikipedia chooses to do is fine, but not applicable to en.wikipedia pillars, polices, and guidelines. In almost four weeks of waiting, nobody has stepped up to add sufficient sources to meet ANYBIO, GNG, BLP, NPOL or any other relevant SNG. Even the page creator has no special attachement to the page. BusterD (talk) 16:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)]
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